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With or Without lines? by MySweetQueen-Dolls With or Without lines? by MySweetQueen-Dolls


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I started painting those white lines on the monster high's lips to make them look more realistic and light, but lately I've read comments saying they look dry that way. The first comments like that were really rude so I didn't pay much attention to them because they seems to be just haters, but then people kept saying the same with good manners and I started worrying about it, because those were real and respectul critiques, so I did this.
I want to make the lips looks sexy and juicy, so I don't like the idea of them looking dry >< should I go back to my previous technique, without those lines? I tried to make them thinner, but it's so damn hard in such little dolls. Don't be afraid of give me your opinion as long as you are respecful with my work, remember critiques doesn't mean free insulting :)
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:iconhinasarutobi:
HinaSarutobi Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2013  Student General Artist
I agree with ~cembree all the way!!!
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cembree Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The lines look great from a distance, though the lines are too jarring up close. The second looks great up close, but lack the complexity of the first. Maybe you could use smaller lines? Or maybe less contrasting colors?
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Ilovemynightmares Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2013
The lines look OK, but make them less prominent. Smaller, thinner maybe. Lighter, I suppose.
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:iconrenegade-samurai:
Renegade-Samurai Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i agree, if the lines are added do all of the above. lines can make or break the 'realism'
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:iconmilkywaythekitty:
MilkyWayTheKitty Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2013
for me when i think of juicy lips i think of lip gloss lip gloss= juicy!!!! i think...
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dragonwarriorsgalore Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I understand where you are coming from :) I think the idea you have is a good one, but if you want to do the lines to look more realistic, you should use smaller lines. They do happen to look dry when they have lines like that. Maybe if you want to continue using the lines without them looking dry, you could use thinner lines? maybe get a smaller tool to paint them on? :/ If not, I think your orignal design on the right looks nicer :)
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kyri-lynn-panda Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013  Student General Artist
Maybe, if you want to keep doing lines on them, paint them in a color that matches the lip color.
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:iconmyliladoptables:
MyLilAdoptables Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2013  Hobbyist
I prefer the left, but is there some way you can blend it better? The white lines contrast so strongly with the orange-y lips. You could make the white lines a little thinner or add some different shades of orange and pink so it blends better? Sorry, I'm not really sure how the medium works on dolls.. I just started browsing your work and I have to say I love it <3
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Weylenn Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
perhaps a mixture of both?? uvu
something closer to the original lip colour, maybe
i don't know very much seeing as i don't ever put much detail into the lips i draw/paint/whatever
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bluemoongem Featured By Owner May 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I think maybe using a bit of both? Like using some of the verticle lines and and the horizontal?
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nekootakugirl Featured By Owner May 10, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
I *love* your dolls, I really do, but the lips do look dry with the lines, maybe you could try making it fainter? Because you're right, it does look more realistic with the lines. Maybe make the lines lighter and thinner?
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:iconeddie-chan:
Eddie-chan Featured By Owner May 9, 2013
I think the issue is that the lines are way too thick. If you brushed them on lighter and thinner I think they'd look fine. :)
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ameb-love Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Student General Artist
If you do lines, don't pull them all across the lip
or else they just look like stripes, I would try fading
it thinner towards the outside of the lines and only
focus lines really around the middle of the mouth.
Also the lines would be to be much much thinner.

However, either lip is fine. Though particularly
with these two photos, I prefer the left.
That orangey color for the inside is to die for and
make them look amazing.
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ColorsOfOrion Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hmmm... If you want to make a dry-lips make up, better draw lines. They will make a soft and tender effect on the doll. But, if you are looking for a gloss-painted lips, then don't draw lines.

But, for a juicy lips, I think it would be better if you use your old technique, but, isntead of drawing circles, try to draw an small dot or oval in the lower lip. Try to not draw it very big or very small, and also not in the center of the lip, just in a side. Oh, and marking more the color of the lips would make it more realistic

This is just my opinion, but... hope I helped you!

PS: Keep doing this amazing works!
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:iconladyduela:
LadyDuela Featured By Owner May 7, 2013  Student
left lips looks a little dry and I love it!!
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:iconmysweetqueen-dolls:
MySweetQueen-Dolls Featured By Owner May 8, 2013
thanks^^
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:iconladyduela:
LadyDuela Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Student
^_^
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:iconamblerrone:
Amblerrone Featured By Owner May 7, 2013
The lips to the left really remind me of Cream Savers candy. :meow: Now I want some! :happybounce:
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:iconkakashi-narutorules:
kakashi-narutorules Featured By Owner May 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think that I prefer the ones without the lines, but I don't have a great artistic eye, so .....
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Jasdeviluver Featured By Owner May 6, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Without
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:iconodcinki:
odcinki Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Professional Writer
I like circles
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MagicSpazzingDragon Featured By Owner May 5, 2013
I think the issue is that one a normal persons lips, the lines are formed because of shadows as there are indentations in the lips that give them texture. I might try the lines (as thin as you can) but closer the the lips true colors, and darker than the lips true colors to make shadows, which is more true to what you would actually see.
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bandotaku Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I like the un-lines lips. If the lines were much finer, they would look realistic. The lines on real lips are typically very fine, and while I see the look you are trying to accomplish, the lines are just too thick and too white in comparison to the proportion of the lips. But you have some very nice work.
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FollowsChalk Featured By Owner May 5, 2013   Traditional Artist
depends on what you're going for, the lines kinda make the lips look like candy (i like :meow:) while the ones without look more glossy
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CaprihinaGirl Featured By Owner May 5, 2013
without
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:iconemilywolfess:
EmilyWolfess Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Professional Photographer
the line one looks like a tailhole
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:iconxkalibolg:
xkalibolg Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
The two of them looks good, but I prefer without lines.
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Sunnycat17 Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I DO agree. They look rather dry that way.
However, if you used less of a contrast, it would probably look better.
They really could have been less rude about it, though. Oh, do you have a brush that makes thinner lines?
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ATreeFullOfStars Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
If you used a subtler contrast--closer to the lip color and darker than the surrounding skin color--it might work better and look less dry. But there are limits to what you can do at this scale, unless you find a way to make finer lines.
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Unpredictabloo Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Student General Artist
I like the lines, personally! It makes them look more realistic. If you want the touch of realism without them being mistaken for dry lips, maybe you could try using a more subtle highlight color and thinner lines? :shrug:
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missmeiring Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Hobbyist
In my opinion I would say without the lines ...But I think that the one with lines could also be very nice if you did it a bit differently ,maybe blend it in a bit more (easier said then done) Good Luck ! PS I LOVE LOVE LOVE the way you work, I am a big fan :)
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Ladymandarin101 Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
I think they loook better without the lines
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:iconlorenziana:
lorenziana Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Hobbyist
You can go with the lines, just instead of using a lighter color for the lines use a darker one and try to make the lines thinner by using a thinner brush, then also line the edges of the lips to add an extra touch if you wish :)
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Lt-Vampire1408 Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
without
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:iconb-schwartz:
b-schwartz Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Student General Artist
Still use lines, just more subtle.
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:iconj4142000:
j4142000 Featured By Owner May 5, 2013
With~ Although the lines should be thinner.
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:iconempresstamararose:
EmpressTamaraRose Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Without lines looks the best :)
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MysticIceDragon Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You can still use lines, but white lines do indeed make the lips look dry.
If you use some darker lines (darker as in a little darker than the skin tone) they would look a little more moisturized, I think c:
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YugureMuffin Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
without
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:icondymonia:
Dymonia Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Student General Artist
I like the one without lines more, it looks more natural and more wet
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PeachLuna Featured By Owner May 5, 2013
If you're going to do lines, I'd say do them waaaaayyy thinner, and a color that's closer to the base color of the lips. The less you notice them, the more realistic they seem I think.
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ami-x Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't think the left looks more realistic... the lines are a little too big for that. I prefer without lines, it doesn't matter if it doesn't look perfectly realistic, right? <: )
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ElitistMachine Featured By Owner May 5, 2013
Look at pictures of real lips and it'll help. Your lips have lines in them, absolutely. But there are two, maybe three at most that are prominent enough to draw shadow. Not highlight as shown here.
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JustAClickAway Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
The lips on the left definately look a little chapped to me. I was thinking it even before I read your comments. On the other hand, though, while the ones on the right look much glossier, they don't look totally real either. Maybe if you did less lines, or just less obvious lines they wouldn't look so dry. For instance, real lips have lots of very faint lines; they blend with the color of the skin. I also know that lots of women paint their lips then only put gloss down the center of the bottom lip, to make it look fuller. So maybe you could experiment with that?
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Astrid569 Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I like the left because it's more realistic and gives it almost a chapped look to it.
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:iconvera-san:
vera-san Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Up close, they look fine, but from afar I must say that they do in fact look more dry >.<
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:iconmagicpawed:
Magicpawed Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
without, they look alot cleaner (at least in these pictures)
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emmy1320 Featured By Owner May 5, 2013
Without
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AgiStar Featured By Owner May 5, 2013   Traditional Artist
Definitely liking them without the lines. They look a lot smoother that way. I think if you really want the lines, they should be a lot thinner. Too thick does indeed make them look a little dry.
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PipolyDa Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
whitout
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